“We make the time for the things that we want to do.” —Fred McCarthy

Fred McCarthy never imagined himself as a pastor—yet God had other plans. In this episode of the Dream Out Loud podcast, Fred, Lead Pastor of Oasis Christian Center in Rahway, NJ, shares the surprising way God reshaped his desires and dreams, leading him into ministry. He talks about the value of leading with authenticity, vulnerability, and openness, and how coaching with Dream Releaser has transformed both his personal growth and his church. From mentoring people in everyday conversations to equipping leaders through the art of coaching, Fred reveals why discovery is more powerful than direction. His journey is an invitation to embrace unexpected callings, lead with honesty, and take the leap into coaching—even if it means making time you didn’t think you had.